i've not tried chaleta...obvious reason...everything lebotbahn said is 100% true but for the record i don't and rarely get special treatment just read my post earlier this evening. But I do stick with the vendors that though their gear might not be pinnacle it's rei;able and not a sham ofsome type.and genrally the best ofered around here, id like to ge ta few grams from fredlint for the record before I walk on down a different road. X) nomad